Tuesday, January 17, 2017

The Count's Origins

Rumors abound when the origins of the Count come into play.  Here are some of the suggested origins.  I would love to hear your thoughts and your reasoning.


  1. Son of the widow of Charles II (King of Spain) and a banker from Madrid.
  2. A Portuguese Jew.
  3. An Alsatian Jew.
  4. Son of a tax-gatherer in Rotondo.
  5. The natural son of the King of Portugal.
  6. Franz-Leopold, Prince Ragoczy, of Transylvania. *
  7. Vlad III Dracula Theory
  8. The Wandering Jew
  9. Actually Francis Bacon
  10. Last of the Medici Family

* Cooper-Oakley, Isabella. The Comte De Saint Germain, the Secret of Kings. 2nd ed. London: Whitefriars Press, 1912. Page 9-10. 
"This theory held by Gorg Hezekiel in his Abenteuerliche Gesellen, i., 35, Berlin, 1862.  Karl von Weber (op. cit., i., 318) also says that M. de St. Germain openy appeared in Leipzig in 1777 as Prince Ragoczy, and that he was often known as Graf Tzarogy, which latter is merely an anagram for Ragotzy (Ragoczy)."

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    1. One of the reasons I say this is because he spoke French with a Piedmontese accent. No Jews were allowed in Portugal at that time as far as I can tell and if he was indeed from Alsace, he would have spoken Alsatian. If he was a Medici he would have spoken Italian with a Tuscan accent. The fact that he had a Piedmontese accent suggests he grew up in Piedmont which was governed by the Savoys. His skills suggest he had a humanistic education which means he was either of nobility or patronized by nobility. Then there's Montferrat which is used as one of his aliases. Montferrat was for a while controlled by the Gonzaga before it was handed to the Savoys. Thus he must have been a Savoy.

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