Ben Franklin Connection

Found this letter at Benjamin Franklin Papers

From — St. Germain

ALS: American Philosophical Society

[c. June, 1778?]

Monsieur

Le Sieur de St. Germain qui a eu l’honneur de se rendre a passy le mois de nouvambre dernier pour reclamer vôtre protection au sujet d’une succession asses considerable qu’un de ses parans luy à laissée á La new York nouvelle anglettere, vous avés eu la bonté de luy dire, que cette ville estoient maintenant au pouvoir des anglais. Il a suivy l’avis que vous luy avés donné de reclamer la protection de Mr. le Marquis de Noailles allors ambassadeur á Londres á qui Il á envoyé un memoire pour le prier de luy obtenir un ordre du ministre d’anglettere pour leur gouverneur á la New York pour forcer le Sieur pintard chargé de sa procuration pour retirer soixante mille Livres qui Etoient au pouvoir de Messrs. Samson pere et fils executeurs testamantaires du parant du suppliant. Soit que Mr. le Marquis en est [ait] fait les diligences auprés du ministre d’anglettere, il n’en á eu aucun succéz, ce qui fait qu’il reclame encore vôtre protection, dans l’espoir ou il est que la new York reviendrá au pouvoir des americains, pour faire obliger le d. Sieur Pintard á luy Payér les dittes soixante mille livres qu’il doit avoir retiré en vertu de sa procuration des dits Sieurs samson pere et fils. Le suppliant forme chaque Jour des voeux pour vôtre conservation et qu’il plaise au Seigneur diriger vos Justes Entreprises.

de St. Germain

Endorsed: St. Germain about Effects at N York

In English this letter's LITERAL TRANSLATION: 

You will find that this literal translation comes across as poor English. Literal translations are often this way. Look below for the actual meaning.

Mr. de St. Germain who had the honor to make a stop in November last month of yours in order to claim protection in respect of a considerable estate access that its parents left him to New York in New England, with you kindly tell him that the city now wise of the power of English. He followed the advice you gave him with claim the protection of the Marquis de Noailles Mr. Ambassador then of London.  He who sent a memorandum to beg him to get an order of the Minister of England their governor á New York to force the Mr Pintard responsible for his attorney to withdraw sixty thousand books which were in the hands of Messrs. Samson father and son testaments executors of adorning the suppliant. Either Mr. Marquis is [was] due diligences to the Minister of England, there was no success in á, which makes it even reclaim your protection, in the hope that he or new York will return to American power, to compel d. Mr. Pintard a liability him pay sixty thousand pounds that must be removed under power of attorney of the said Mr Samson father and son. Begging him every day as your wishes for conservation and it pleases the Lord direct your righteous Company.

In English this letter's ACTUAL MEANING:
This is a rough translation, but you'll get the idea.

Mr. de St. Germain, who had the honor to visit in November last month, made an insurance claim in respect of a considerable estate that his family left him in New York in New England, thanks to the fact that you told him that New York had caught up to England. He followed the advice you gave him about the insurance with the Marquis de Noailles, then Ambassador of London.  He sent a memorandum to beg him to get an order from the Minister of England to force Mr. Pintard, his attorney, to withdraw sixty thousand pounds which were in the hands of the Samsons, father and son, testifying executors of adorning the solicitor.  The Marquis’ due diligence to the Minister of England was unsuccessful which makes it even more important to claim insurance in the hope that his power or American power will compel Mr. Pintard to pay sixty thousand pounds, under liability, or that it must be recovered under power of attorney of the said Samsons (father and son).  Talking to him every day, as you instructed, until he folds. 

 

Basically what this letter is saying is that the Count asked Ben Franklin for some advice about getting some insurance on some estate money that was left to him.  The question is, which Count de St. Germain asked this?

What am I doing? Why am I doing this?

Hello Jessie Desmond,

Before I comment, please take my reflections as mere friendly hand-skakes. No disrepect given, in other words. As the saying goes: One must do as one is compelled to do.

Two things about finding Comte de St. Germain: firstly, if you're interested in historical information that's one thing, there's much to be had; but how can one be certain he's still with us? If he was and had in his possession the Lapis (as history indicates), he would very likely be hybernating in some distant, non-commercial, location - I would! - wouldn't you?

Those that completed the Magnum Opus, namely the Royal Art of alchemy, often remove themselves from larger populated areas to continue their 'spiritual work'. I wouldn't be surprised if he was alive, he would be in a remote area of the world - just saying.

Secondly, have you ever explored military-declassified 'remote viewing' before? If one is to uncover such an advanced entity, we should pursue him by what he also used, namely, remote viewing. There're numerous references of St.Germain looking at future events, etc. Why not use the same "skill"?

The third comment, I couldn't resist: what benefit is there for such an entity - dance with danger! - by showing themselves other than for silly American entertainment and vanity-related pursuits. That has, I'm certain, little to do with the existence of such entity.

Best regards,
Krisztián

I've had a few people ask me what I'm doing and why I'm so interested in the Count, just like Krisztian here. So let me make some comments here and hopefully that will satisfy everyone.

Count Saint-Germain from

Marvel Comic's

Frankenstein-Dracula War

I realize that the Count would probably have some remote location of residence. I'm not out to find out where that may be. I'm interested in knowing if he's real or not and to possibly meet him. He seems like a pretty awesome guy. On the flip side to his remote location, he also seems to like to keep an eye on the world. This means that he has a public face.

Remote viewing, I am more than aware of it, is not a viable way of researching. I'm trying to do this in a proper scholarly manner.

His benefits for meeting me? No idea. Doesn't mean it would be lame. I'd just like to meet him, shake his hand, and maybe draw his portrait or something.

If history was without mysteries like that which surrounds the Count, then history would be dull. I've been intrigued with the Count for 19 or 20 years now. I'll continue to look into the mystery that surrounds him until I die. He's fascinating.

A Submission

Very excited about an email I got from Chris Silk who remembered that I had a thing for the Count

His email had some links and some points of interest.

Anyway, please take a look at these URLs and the information enclosed.

http://www.anandgholap.net/Hidden_Life_In_Freemasonry-CWL.htm

See paragraphs 25 to 31 (above).  What is particularly interesting is the connection ot Sir Francis Bacon, which I had mentioned in earlier LT posts.  Bacon also wrote the New Atlantis, the book many believe was the guiding influence for our country's founding fathers.  And when you speak of the founding fathers, please don't forget the Freemasons.  There is also a reference in this section to Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, one of the founders of modern Theosophy (again, there are interesting connections to gnosticism and early Egyptian esoteric thought/wisdom).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_II_R%C3%A1k%C3%B3czi

Seems to me I have heard this reference before, and I did, see below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Germain_(Theosophy)

Love to know your thoughts...

The first link, I have not seen before.  It's an online version of:  

Leadbeater, C.W. The Hidden Life in Freemasonry.  33° The Theosophical Publishing House: Adyar, Madras, India, 1926. Second Edition 

The forward is written by Annie Besant, who claimed to have met the Count.  Paragraphs 25 to 31 present an account of the Count being the Headship of the Ceremonial Ray and a master of wisdom.  It also mentions the Count taking an interest in Freemasonry around 3 AD.  Such an odd and precise time (personal thought).  There is an incredible history of the Count where there is claim that he was born in England to an old Roman family.  I'll just post the text.

Good find Chris Silk!  Thank you!  Sorry it took me so long to get to it.  I was in the middle of a move.

Below, sections 25-32 from the aforementioned online resource: The Hidden Life in Freemasonry.

25.                          PRESERVATION OF RITUALS AND SYMBOLS

26.                          That the rituals and symbols should have been preserved to us with so wonderfully little altera­tion is surely a marvellous thing; it would be inexplicable but for the fact that the Great Powers behind evolution have taken an interest in the matter, and gradually brought people back to the true lines when they had swerved somewhat away from them. This business was always in the hands of the Chohan of the Seventh Ray, for that is the ray most especially connected with ceremonial of all kinds, and its Head was always the supreme Hierophant of the Mysteries of ancient Egypt. The present holder of that office is that Master of the Wisdom of whom we often speak as the Comte de S. Germain, because He appeared under that title in the eighteenth century. He is also sometimes called Prince Rakoczi, as He is the last survivor of that royal house. Exactly when He was appointed to the Headship of the Ceremonial Ray I do not know, but He took a keen interest in Freemasonry as early as the third century A.D.

27.                          We find him at that period as Albanus, a man of noble Roman family, born at the town of Verulam in England. As a young man he went to Rome, joined the army there, and achieved considerable distinction in it. He served in Rome for some seven years at any rate, perhaps longer than that. It was there that he was initiated into Freemasonry, and also became a proficient in the Mithraic Mysteries, which were so closely associated with it.

28.                          After this time in Rome he returned to his birth­place in England, and was appointed governor of the fortress there. He also held the position of “the Master of the Works”, whatever that may have meant; he certainly superintended the repairs and the general work in the fortress at Verulam, and he was at the same time the Imperial Paymaster. The story goes that the workmen were treated as slaves and wretchedly paid, but that S. Alban (as he was afterwards called) introduced Freemasonry and changed all that, securing for them better wages and greatly improved conditions generally. Many of our Brn. must have heard of the Watson MS of 1687. In that a good deal is said about S. Albans work for the Craft, and it is specially mentioned that he brought from France certain ancient charges which are practically identical with those in use at the present time. He was beheaded in the persecu­tion by the Emperor Diocletian in the year 303, and the great abbey of S. Alban was built over his remains some five hundred years later.

29.                          In the year 411 he was born in Constantinople and received the name of Proclus - a name which in after life he was destined to make famous. He was one of the last great exponents of Neo-Platonism, and his influence overshadowed to a great extent the medieval Christian Church. After that there is a gap in his list of incarnations, as to which at present we know nothing. We find him reborn in the year 1211, and in that life he was Roger Bacon, a Franciscan friar, who was a reformer both of the theology and the science of his day. In 1375 came his birth as Christian Rosenkreutz. That also was an incarnation of considerable importance, for in it he founded the secret society of the Rosicrucians. He seems some fifty years later, or a little more than that, to have used the body of Hunyadi Janos, an eminent Hungarian soldier and leader. Also we are told that about 1500 he had a life as the monk Robertus, somewhere in middle Europe. We know practically nothing about that, as to what he did or in what way he distinguished himself.

30.                          After that comes one of the greatest of his births, for in the year 1561 he was born as Francis Bacon. Of that great man we hear in history little that is true and a great deal that is false. The real facts of his life are gradually becoming known, largely by means of a cipher story which he wrote secretly in the many works which he published. That story is of entrancing interest, but it does not concern us here. A sketch of it may be found in my book The Hidden Side of Christian Festivals, from which I am epitomizing this account.* (*Op. cit.., p. 303.)

31.                          A century later we are told that he took birth as Jozsef Rakoczi, a prince of Transylvania. We find him mentioned in the encyclopedias, but not much information is given. After that considerable mys­tery surrounds his movements. He seems to have travelled about Europe, and he turns up at intervals, but we have little definite knowledge about him. He was the Comte de S. Germain at the time of the French Revolution, and worked much with Madame Blavatsky, who was at that period in incarnation under the name of Père Joseph. He also appears to have disguised himself as Baron Hompesch, who was the last of the Knights of St. John of Malta, the man who arranged the transfer of the island of Malta to the English. This great saint and teacher still lives, and His present body has no appearance of great age. I myself met Him physically in Rome in 1901, and had a long con­versation with Him.

32.                          In Co-Masonry we refer to Him as the Head of all True Freemasons throughout the world (abbreviated as the H.O.A.T.F.) and in some of our Lodges His portrait is placed in the east, above the chair of the R.W.M., and just beneath the Star of Initiation; others place it in the north, above an empty chair. Upon His recognition and assent as Head of the Seventh Ray the validity of all rites and degrees depends. He often selects pupils from among the Brn. of the Masonic Order, and prepares those who have fitted themselves in the lower mysteries of Masonry for the true Mysteries of the Great White Lodge, of which our Masonic initiations, splendid though they be, are but faint reflections, for Masonry has ever been one of the gates through which that White Lodge might be reached. Today but few of His Masons acknowledge Him as their Sovereign Grand Master, yet the possibility of such discipleship has ever been recognized in the traditions of the Order.

Brief Information on Names Previously Used

Weldon/Welldoun
No sound information yet.

Saltikoff (also Saltykov)
A surname of a Russian noble family.  Many from this family were statesmen, translators, and diplomats.  Sergei Saltykov was a lover of Catherine the Great.

de Saint-Noel

This name literally means, in modern day culture, "Santa Claus" or "Saint Nick".

Marquis de Montferrat
The last known Marquis de Montferrat passed in 1708 at the age of 55.  Ferdinando Carlo Gonzaga (31 August 1652 – 5 July 1708) was the only child of Duke Charles II of Mantua and Montferrat, and the last ruler of the Duchy of Mantua of the House of Gonzaga.  The House of Savoy obtained the remaining half of Montferrat, having already conquered the first half in the War of the Mantuan Succession in 1631. The Duchy of Mantua became Austrian and ceased its independent existence. Ferdinando Carlo died the same year in Padua.  More information here.

Comte Bellamarre
So far I have only found references (other than to C. St.Germain) to Quebec, Canada.

Chevalier Schoening
No sound information yet.

Graf Tzarogy
No sound information yet. 

Prinz Ragoczy
No sound information yet.

Major Fraser  
No sound information yet. 

Unveiled Mysteries

I ordered Unveiled Mysteries from ForgottenBooks.Org – which has free e-books.  Unveiled Mysteries by Guy Warren Ballard started the whole “I AM” society.  Ballard talks about how he met Count St.Germain on Mt.Shasta in California.  Ballard was a government employee investigating the rumor of the strange Brotherhood of Mount Shasta.  One day, he was out hiking around, usual for him, and he came across a strange man who turned his water into a “creamy liquid” that was “delicious, the electrical vivifying effect in my body and mind made me gasp in surprise”.  Immediately the strange man starts talking about Universal Supply, which in a nut shell is: If you need something, focus and it will immediately appear.  Ballard goes on to mention that this man rambled on about spiritualism and God.  Who is this mysterious man?  He’s the embodiment of Count St.Germain, one of the Ascended Masters – you could say that he is channeling the Count.  Ballard and this man do some astral traveling, the man can transport himself from one place to the other, and talks about God even more.

I dislike the I AM stuff because it's 1. Not verifiable, 2. Not objective, and 3. Reads like literature from a cult.  It's an interesting read especially if you're into psychic abilities and spiritualism.  It is just not good source material for Count St.Germain.

Read for yourself: Unveiled Mysteries by Guy Warren Ballard

Update

I have updated the bibliography.  Look for articles and books, most of which are e-books or are available online.

Just curious here.  How many readers do I have for this blog?

Names

I should put together a list of names that the Count used.  It might come in handy for later research.  Heck, it might come in handy for any reader who comes across this research blog.

• Count St. Germain
• Weldon/Welldoun
• Saltikoff
• de Saint-Noel
• Marquis de Montferrat
• Comte Bellamarre
• Chevalier Schoenin
• Graf Tzarogy
• Prinz Ragoczy
• Major Fraser

If I missed a name, let me know and I'll update the list.

I came across this article from Ghostwoods on the Count.  It's great, but I wonder where all the information came from.  There are bits and pieces of factoids that I have not heard yet.

http://www.ghostwoods.com/2009/10/the-comte-de-saint-germain-726/

Theory blown to pieces

Well, according to biographers on the Count women were never mentioned in his life story - doesn't mean they weren't there, but they seriously were not mentioned.

My theory that Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont was the Count was just blown out of the water by one of his descendants.  I thought it was far too easy to be right.  Any good researcher will tell you that this sort of thing deserves a little frowny face  :(   but it only means that more research will have to be done which gets it's own happy face  :) .

I'll adjust the blog when I am more awake.

Valcourt-Vermont in the News

Here are some news clippings that I've found on Edgar Valcourt-Vermont.  Click on the image to enlarge.

Ancestry.com. The New York Times (New York, New York) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: The New York Times. New York, NY, USA. Database created from microfilm copies of the newspaper.

Ancestry.com. The Atlanta Constitution (Atlanta, Georgia) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.

Ancestry.com. The Dunkirk Observer Journal (Dunkirk, New York) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: The Dunkirk Observer Journal. Dunkirk, NY, USA. Database created from microfilm copies of the newspaper.

Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont

I have been on a quest for information on Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont since he went out of his way to use the name Count St.Germain.  Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont wrote three books under the name of Count Saint-Germain and one other book under Valcourt-Vermont - that I know of.

What I have not been able to find are any photographs of Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont through the internet.  If you come across one, please send me a digital copy!

Books written:

• Saint-Germain, Comte C. de. Practical Astrology: a Simple Method of Casting Horoscopes: The Language of the Stars, easily Comprehended.  Laird & Lee Publishers; Chicago, 1901.  
• Saint-Germain, Comte C. de. Practical Hypnotism: Theories and Experiments.  Laird & Lee Publishers; Chicago, 1901.
• Saint-Germain, Comte C. de. Practical Palmistry.  Laird & Lee Publishers; Chicago, 1897.
• Valcourt-Vermont, Edgar de. America Heraldica. Bretano Publishing: New York, 1887.  Illustrated by Auguste Leroy.

To the right
This picture is of Emma Calve.  She has signed this photograph to the Count.  It reads: "To M. Comte

Saint-Germain, le grand chiromancier, pu de see me dire les choses de vraies, Emma Calve, 1897."

In English this translates to: "To Mister Count Saint-Germain, the Grand Chiromancer, (literal translation) able to see me put it real, Emma Calve, 1897."




From the National Archives via Ancestry.com:
Valcourt-Vermont, Edourd.  Boarder.  White.  Male.  Birth: January 1848.  Age: 52.  Married: 20y.  Marriage Date: 1880.  From: France.  Immigration Year: 1885. Residence: Chicago Ward 34, Cook, Illinois
Valcourt-Vermont, Anna.  Border.  White.  Female.  Birth: March 1849.  Age: 51.  Married: 20y.  Marriage Date: 1880.  From: Belgium.  Residence: Chicago Ward 34, Cook, Illinois.

The address taken from a photocopy (on Ancestry.com) of the census records is: 5630 Woodlawn Avenue

Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place:  Chicago Ward 34,  Cook,  Illinois; Roll:  T623_ 289; Page:  16B; Enumeration District:  1077.

To Left

This letter is currently available for purchase at AbeBooks.com for $40.00

It's not the best picture, but it definitely places our man in Chicago, Illinois in 1897.

That blurb....

From Saint-Germain, Comte C. de. Practical Palmistry.  Laird & Lee Publishers; Chicago, 1897. I was questioning what was written.  I had it translated as "EdiVahorut?? _ Vermont".

I received help in translating it from some of the folks over at the Legendary Times forum (HERE).  It's the name "Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont".

I am currently looking for information on Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont.  Everything seems to be on tarot and palmistry.

Videos from YouTube

These are some videos that are interesting and informational.


This video has a good bit of information, but you have to read it. Set to a piece by Erik Satie. Great pictures from his works.


The International Man of Mystery Series. This is the Intro. Informational series.


Part 1. Don't know where part 2 is.


Information on Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's Count Saint Germain series. It's historical thrillers set in various time periods and the Count is a vampire. I've read "Hotel Transylvania" and it was a good read.

Video: Saint Germain, The Man Who Would Not Die

This is an "In Search Of..." episode all about Saint Germain. This means it's hosted by none other than Leonard Nimoy! (Sweet!) This episode is laced with "I AM" stuff, which I'm not a big fan of, but I think it's a good way to expose any readers to the Count and the (I think it's ridiculous) I AM group.

Timeline Updated

I just added a few more entries in the timeline!

A Faked Death?

The follow is a chapter scanned from Jean Overton-Fuller's The Comte de Saint-Germain.  Last Scion of the House of Rakoczy.

Many people believe that the Count died February 27, 1784 in a state of poverty.  I think this is incredibly wrong and that this is the official date of his faked death (with the help of Charles of Hesse).  What you will find in the text (just click to enlarge them) is that he left behind some clothes, a small amount of money, some toiletries, and two pistols.  There are no notebooks or journals listed, no music or instruments, no gems, no art supplies (he was known to paint), and no collected items from his travels.